10 Things I Hate About Textbroker

image for things I hate about textbrokerThe other day, I published a post that covered the ten things I love about writing for money on Textbroker. That post only tells half the story, though, because I actually have a love/hate relationship with TB. In the interest of full disclosure, here are some of the cons of writing for Textbroker.

1. Textbroker pay stinks in the beginning.

I am not kidding. For those who start as a two-star writer, it is less than a penny a word. Actually, you have to get to the five-star level to earn anything like a living wage, but some writers manage a happy medium at the four-star level once they have some direct-order clients.

Here is the thing though, if you do not qualify as a four-star writer, you may not be ready to write for anyone who might remember your name. That is where Textbroker can help you bridge the gap until you are really ready to go professional.

As I mentioned in my original article, some people who write with the proper grammar and spelling may struggle to find the right voice for web copy. For these writers, Textbroker rates are shockingly low.

2. You can only hold one order in your queue at a time.

I understand why it is so. This prevents writers from claiming open orders they are not actually writing at the moment. This system–where you claim a case and complete it before you claim another–suits Textbroker just fine, but it prevents your very best work.

In my best work, I write an outline and a rough draft, and then I put it away before I come back and make it perfect. I just do not feel like I get enough time to make it perfect on Textbroker, because I can never work on something else before I do the final edit.

3. Sometimes an order is not clear or is downright incorrect.

When orders are not clear or they cannot be fulfilled as ordered, you can pull the order into your work queue and then write to the client, but then you will not be able to grab another case until the client answers you.

I recently had to dump an article because the order included overlapping mandatory keywords. The bare minimum keywords ended up exceeding the maximum on some of the terms. I could have written to the client and asked them to correct the order, but have I tried that before, and it was just a waste of time.

There is no incentive for the writer to provide customer service when it can easily take 24 to 48 hours to resolve something like this, and the writer cannot change the order.

4. Textbroker clients try to recruit you.

This is awkward. You want to be gracious about the offer, but in the meantime, Textbroker is watching all your correspondence to try and catch this. Textbroker’s Terms of Service clearly state that you cannot have any contact with clients outside the Textbroker site. Writers poaching clients and clients poaching writers are forbidden.

Unfortunately, because Textbroker is working so hard to prevent poaching, communication with clients can be arduous when messages get netted by Textbroker’s filters. It is foolish, in my opinion, that Textbroker makes it so hard to communicate inside their system, when that is where they want you to be.

5. Clients may take up to four days to approve your work.

This could drive you crazy on Thursday afternoon when you are looking at all the work you have done that week and considering the possibility that a lot of it may not get approved before midnight.

You see, Textbroker cuts checks every Friday based on your request for payment of all approved work before midnight on Thursday.

Need a reason to bang your head on your desk? Check your account Friday morning and find that a client approved a slew of your articles at 10 pm the night before, but because you did not sign in to Textbroker, check the statistics, and request a pay out right before midnight, you’ll be waiting another week to get paid for those assignments.

6. You may look like you are ahead when you are behind.

Those articles that did not get approved by midnight on Thursday last? Well, they are all going to hit automatic acceptance by Monday. Which means all week long you’ll be working with a hefty balance waiting to be paid, and that hefty balance may make it harder than usual for you to apply the right pressure to your performance for the rest of week.

I know, it is all about discipline. You have to have a spreadsheet where you track every day’s production, so you do not focus on payday so much as earnings per week. Except…

When you are working off a daily production sheet, you will occasionally have negatives appear. Someone may return a handful of yesterday’s assignments and suddenly it is as though you only worked half a day. You end up starting your new day in the hole.

7. Textbroker only allows you 24 hours to make corrections.

If you are a fan of weekends, you may lose some of your Friday assignments to rejections. You also might not want to take any chances with new clients the day before you are leaving on vacation.

I understand why this is important for customer service. I know when I see an article sent back for revision, I feel it is my highest priority to either fix it or release it as soon as possible. Still, I think we writers spend way too much time in front of our keyboards.

I wish we were granted time through the next business day before the article returned to the open forum, so those who choose could have their weekends.

8. Clients who want UK English do not know to order on Textbroker.co.uk.

I guess some clients have yet to learn about this new site, but I am very pleased that Textbroker has opted to split the language for writers. Personally, I am not interested in trying to write something that will sound off to a local ear. It is the height of conceit to think you just have humour folks with some Us whilst placing your Rs toward the centre of the word, and suddenly you are writing the Queen’s English.

I think trying to write in UK English would chip away at my quality rating. Besides, a client requesting UK English has a right to choose from a pool of writers that does not include me and most of my compatriots.

I have always gotten a little sad each time I read through what looks to be a promising assignment and at the very end it says, please use UK English, but I feel even sadder now that I know they have a site of their own.

9. Textbroker’s price per word model is not ideal.

Clients want a lot more than mere words these days. Some clients want you to find them a photo. Others would like social media promotion along with your article. I have even been approached for several multimedia opportunities for which it would be much more satisfactory to enter a project fee.

Of course, a lot of these offers just do not fit inside Textbroker, which is unfortunate because…

10. Textbroker does not offer a graceful way out.

As I have already pointed out, Textbroker does not allow you to have contact with a client outside their platform. They have absolutely no system in place for allowing a client and writer to evolve beyond the per-word-subcontractor arrangement. I understand that Textbroker’s writers are their assets, but I think it is a failure of imagination not to find a way to allow temporary employees to move onto permanent situations with clients.

For many people, Textbroker is a temporary arrangement. Someday, many of these writers will go on to more lucrative, permanent situations. When they do, Textbroker will get nothing beyond the satisfaction that they did everything except provide the introduction.

I think Textbroker should set a price for buying a writer out of the system. Set it high. It works for every other temp agency I have ever encountered.

Share Your Pain

These are my biggest frustrations with Textbroker. Not enough to make me quit this month, but maybe beyond your own tolerance. Overall, I have to say that Textbroker is better than many other routes you might take when you start writing for money online.

I could add one more pain point. Every time you get a new direct-order client it gets harder to go back and write for the general pool rates. That is a plus and a minus, because you are getting better pay, but you will not always have those better paying assignments.

What about you? Did I miss one of your Textbroker pet peeves?

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13 Responses to 10 Things I Hate About Textbroker

  1. I am signed up to textbroker and no matter when I log in, with my ’3star’ rating.. there are NEVER any tasks for me to complete.
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    • Tammi Kibler says:

      That would be very frustrating. I think it is a good sign that more content purchasers are seeking higher quality writers, but if there are no 3-star jobs available, that would make it hard to break in with Textbroker.

      Thanks for pointing that out, Rizwan.

  2. George Angus says:

    Hi Tammi,

    Nope. You hit every one of my pet peeves.

    While I do like Textbroker for a lot of reasons, what you list here is enough to seriously consider using them. I think the thing that gets me the most upset is the client communication. For the most part it doesn’t bother me too much if it takes a little while but what bothers me is the whole “Big Brother” influence. It bothers me that the correspondence is so heavily edited. I’ve not tried to engage a potential client outside of the system and I’ve not had one client try the same. Still, I can tell that our exchanges have been “moderated.” It is too heavy-handed in my opinion.

    My other gripe has to do with re-writes. I recently had an article kicked back. No biggie, it happens. When I read the feedback the client had given I seriously wondered if they had received an article other than the one I had written. I followed the procedure and you want to guess who Textbroker sided with? The (paying) client. Nice. On top of it, the email response was terse and threatened, “If you do this again, we will demote you.” Needless to say, I was less than pleased.

    They have every reason to side with an (unreasonable) client. They also have every incentive to demote someone from a 5 star status.

    Other than those things…

    Good article Tammi. Thanks for posting.

    George
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    • Tammi Kibler says:

      Thanks for sharing so much, George. It’s good to know I’m not alone.

      I seriously wondered if they had received an article other than the one I had written. - I have had that experience. I have never raised the issue with Textbroker, but yes, at times the feedback makes no sense with my article.

      Whenever I can, I take articles like that and sell them on Constant Content. Sometimes though, when the article is brand or product oriented, that is impossible.

  3. JM says:

    I have been a level 4 writer for two years.

    I regularly get ‘attaboy’ comments from the Textbroker staff.

    Today I log in and I have been demoted to a level 3. Are you serious?

    I was demoted for writing sales copy for a client who loves my work.
    Writing sales copy not the same as writing informational or web content
    articles.

    Every online writer with half a brain knows that!

    I am STEAMED beyond belief. Who the hell is running the ship over there?
    What is going on?

    There is absolutely NO WAY I am staying with Textbroker as a level 3.
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    • Tammi Kibler says:

      Hi JM,

      That sounds very frustrating. You might consider following up with that client through Textbroker email, so you can arrange direct orders at the rate that client is accustomed to paying for you.

      Tammi

  4. It is indeed frustrating. There are really a lot of things to consider before you decide to join Textbrokers. There should be a complete knowledge on how things are done.

  5. GK says:

    Hi Tammi,

    Can you recommend a tool that will help me to manage all my writing projects, communicate with my clients (not by emails and word/pdf files)?

    Thanks,
    GK

    • Tammi Kibler says:

      Hi GK,

      I am not sure what you seek. A tool that is not email or documents? My typewriter and file cabinet once did the trick, but I don’t want to go back. I rely heavily on OpenOffice and my email provider.

      Thanks for stopping by and commenting.

      T

  6. Dreamer says:

    Yes, I second the “what’s going on at Textbroker?” comment. It seems they have a new (or several new) hatchet-minded editor/s. After being with them for years, I had a story torn limb from socket that the client loved. The article had cultural references that the editor clearly did not comprehend, and s/he made very odd comments.

    After writing over 1,000 articles at a 4 level and being asked by many of my clients why I’m not at a 5, I received a 2 for this creative article. The same day, I received a 3 for a 700 word article that had one incorrect letter. This demoted me to a 3, where I have never been. I started at a 4.

    Is TB is gnawing off it’s own hands?

    Why don’t we writers band together and develop own own business and give TB (and other content mills) a run for their money? We know how to write, we know how to interact better with clients than these go-betweens, and we could keep all the money, thus charge less.

    Hmmmm…. what a concept. Watch Craigslist for something along these lines I’ve heard about from the drums beating in the jungle.

    • Tammi Kibler says:

      Ouch. I think it is frustrating that they tend to review our work in bunches, so you can be completing assignments and pleasing the customers, and then suddenly Textbroker will inform you that the last several weeks of work does not meet the standard.

      I think it only fair to point out to anyone unfamiliar with Textbroker’s rating system that an author is only demoted after receiving 5 consecutive lower ratings. However, you can get a reviewer who suddenly decides something that has been acceptable in the past no longer is. I had that experience lately. I suspect if this editor had looked for a certain issue in every one of my articles, I might have been demoted.

      The problem is that Textbroker tries to maintain a particular standard with their ranking, which includes the AP Stylebook, but many customers have other preferences. However, you cannot assume that just because someone likes your work, that means they are okay with the quality issues. Sometimes Textbroker points out problems that your customer would not recognize. You as a writer should provide professional grammar and spelling whether your customer can recognize it or not, so Textbroker correctly insists that you provide the quality.

      Other times though, a customer specifically does not want AP Stylebook or professional sounding text, or is looking for a format, like a sales page, that may not require complete sentences or follow thematic structure. Authors are then forced to choose between writing to meet a particular customer’s desires and encourage future assignments or writing to Textbroker standards and the ability to write for other customers at a particular level.

      Wherever you are at Textbroker, I think you should be cultivating the customers. Show the customers who like your work that you are worth your direct order price so you don’t have to spend a lot of time writing public orders.

      As for the bit at the end, I agree that writers who have learned to acquire customers on their own should do so. I think it would be difficult for a new content company to compete with powerhouses like Textbroker and keep a full stable of writers employed.

      Cheers!

  7. Balu says:

    All the 10 points are also hated by me about Text Broker. Had a very bad experience on it.